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PostSubject: Stakeing strateegiad   Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:24 am

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PostSubject: 66/33 system   Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:50 am

66/33 system:

Panustamise strateegia, mida ise kasutan aeg-ajalt favoriitide peal, kus kasutatakse asian handicappi -1 jalgpallis ja pesapallis -1.5.
Süsteem ise on lihtne....kuna -1 asian handicap annab raha tagasi, kui favoriit võidab ainult 1 väravaga, siis panustan näiteks 20 euri handicap -1le ja 40 euri ainult võidule....tekib olukord, kus favoriidi 1 väravalise võidu puhul saan 20 eurise panuse tagasi ja 40 eurine panus võidab väiksema koefiga. Kui favoriit ei suuda võita, siis kaotan muidugi mõlemad panused, aga korraliku tipsteriga suudan sellise strateegiaga siiski võita rohkem kui kaotada. Sama kasutan pesapallis handicapiga, kui run line on 1.5, kuigi pesapallile panustan harva.
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PostSubject: Re: Stakeing strateegiad   Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:19 am

Põhilised staking strateegiad keerlevad ikka % ümber...ja ühtlasi lihtsamad. Et panustad vastavalt teenuse strike rateil ja tippide arvule päevas...näiteks soovitan siiski algajamatel oodata ära, kuni naasevad pausilt tipsterid fabien ja benny, kelle kohta ma kirjutasin...ja alustada nende tippidest...5 protsenti igale tipile ja arvutad iga päev uuesti protsendi üle...fabien on nii stabiilne, et ka 10 protsenti võib panustada per tip...kui läheb 1-2 tippi mööda, langetad panust niikuinii iga tipiga
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PostSubject: Re: Stakeing strateegiad   Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:25 am

Martingale Staking Plan:

The Martingale system is quite easy to use. Everytime you lose you place a new bet to recover your losses and the profit you aimed for in the first place. If we say you are betting on something at odds 2 and bet 50 units, and then lose these 50 units, then your next bet will be 100. If you win then you have just won 50 units. If you had placed your bet at level stakes (the same stake every bet) you would just break even.
The idea behind the Martingale staking plan is of course very good and will make sure that you will never lose since you just keep betting more and more until the win eventually comes. In a perfect world where long runs of loses does not exist this system would make us all rich.

Jällegi...kuna summad kasvavad kiirelt, soovitan kasutada ainult fabieni ja benny peal või teenuste/tippide pealt, millel ei ole historys üle 5 kaotuse järiest olnud
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PostSubject: Re: Stakeing strateegiad   Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:07 pm

Nii, ikkagi üritaks vastust saada küsimusele milliselt neti lehelt ma saan hakkata panustamisega tegelema? Soovitasid mulle et ma alustaks stakeingu plaaniga kuna olen algaja. Ise oleks ma nõus ka teie tasulisi tippe kasutama, kui ma aint teaks kust alustada.
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PostSubject: Re: Stakeing strateegiad   Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:08 pm

Vabandust, et mu küsimus läks nüüd siia, kuigi oleks pidanud minema tegelikult küsimuste ja vastuste alla.
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PostSubject: Re: Stakeing strateegiad   Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:55 pm

Mis arvate kas suhteliselt väikse historyga, antud juhul näiteks italiansoccerkings tipside puhul tuleks vähendada panust kohe pärast esimest kaotust, pärast teist või läheneda üldse mingi teise strateegiaga? Kindlasti ei ole mingit kindlat soovitust või asja, lihtsalt mõtlesin, et uurin mis teised arvavad. Ei ole praegu üldsegi kindel, kuidas täna käituda, paljud mängud postponed ja äkki teenus võtab siis nö" lihtsalt mingi mängu, mis toimub".
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PostSubject: Re: Stakeing strateegiad   Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:55 pm

mina arvutan enne iga panustamist uuesti oma panuse üle..nii hoiad koguaeg kätt pulsil ja kuigi hetkel võib tunduda, et italiansoccerkingil läheb halvasti...peaksid nad saama veel mitu päeva järiest kahjumit enne, kui hakkavad sööma seda kasumit, mis eelneva akaga teeninud on...muidugi...kes ei taha olla nii palju asjas sees...soovitan võtta ainult 1 tipster 3st, ehk siis hetke parim ntks...ja panustada 10 prossa betting bankist ja arvutada seda enne iga mängu uuesti välja;)....teiseks, ei usu, et nad niiöelda midagi välja mõtlevad.....kuna liigad, kustkohast tipid neil saidi väitel on, ei ole hetkel flashi andmetel ühtegi mängu postponeinud
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PostSubject: Re: Stakeing strateegiad   Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:19 pm

Selge ja tänud asja kommenteerimast Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Stakeing strateegiad   Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:38 am

Vahel juhtub, et erinevate teenuste tipid on samad. Siin on vist isegi olnud, et kolmest kohast antakse sama tip. Mida te siis teete? Panete rohkem raha mängu?
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PostSubject: Re: Stakeing strateegiad   Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:36 pm

Oleneb kas jälgid seda teenust oma stakeidega...kui jah...siis mina olen pannud...kuna nii peaks tegema...et paned siis samale tipile niiöelda kaks panust...muidu ei jõua sa kuu lõpuks samasse kohta välja kuhu mõlemad teenused
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PostSubject: Re: Stakeing strateegiad   Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:59 pm

lisan siia inglisekeelsed seletused populaarsematest staink strateegiatest, kuigi ise kasutan hetkel protsenti peamiselt:

Martingale System
The most common approach to gambling systems is based on a martingale system model.
Originally, martingale referred to a class of betting strategies popular in 18th
century France. A martingale style system is one where you double your bet after a
losing (or with some variations after a winning) hand i.e., a $5 bet is lost so the
next bet made is $10. If that is lost the third bet made is for $20. If the third bet
is won you win 20 and retain your bet, so have a total of $40. In this way you have
essentially recouped your losses on the original $5 bet and the $10 bet. You've also
made a $5 profit. This is the worst sytem ever imagined. It is particularly bad since
a small losing streak will put the gambler up against the table limit of the casino.


D’Alembert System
Introduced in the mid 1700’s by Jean le Rond D’Alembert. This is a progression system
that helps win back losses in small steps instead of all at once like the Martingale.
It was engineered for use on the even chance bets on a roulette table but can be used
on any even chance bet. This system works on the theory that over time there will be
an equal number of wins for both the player and the banker. If a player starts a session
by placing one unit ($1, $5 or any other value) on the player to win, after a losing hand
he will increase the subsequent bet by one unit and after a winning bet will decrease the
next bet by one unit. So if he were betting on the player and the results were - loss,
loss, loss, win, loss, win, win, loss, win, win, win - then the bets placed would be as
follows (the numbers in brackets show the level of your bankroll after the spin):

1 (-1), 2 (-3), 3 (-6), 4 (-2), 3 (-5), 4 (-1), 3 (+2), 2 (+0), 3 (+3), 2 (+5), 1 (+6)

This sequence would close with a win of $6. As soon as the number of wins is equal to the
number of losses plus one, then the sequence ends with a win. Also notice that after the 7th,
9th and 10th spins the player was showing a profit, because the bets placed on winning spins
are one unit greater than the previous losing spin. Having the possibility of a positive bankroll
before the sequence is complete allows the player to cut the session short after a small win
rather than risking the chance of the session ending badly. Although this system lessens the
chances of losing your bankroll the possibility of this happening is still there. A long sequence
of consecutive losses or a period of time where the banker wins more often than the player will
soon put the system in a position where it becomes almost impossible to recover. As always the
house edge works on every spin, and so increasing your bets will eventually increase your losses.



Fibonacci System [pronounced fib-on-arch-ee or fee-bur-nutch-ee]
The Fibonacci system is based on a mathematical sequence discovered by Leonardo Pisano, better
known by his nickname Fibonacci. He was the son of Guilielmo and a member of the Bonacci family.
It is based on a sequence of numbers where the next number in the sequence is the previous two
numbers added together. It starts with 1, and continues like this:

1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610 etc

In its basic form, a player begins with a 1-unit bet. He then keeps betting one unit until he
loses, and then moves up one level after each loss, until he wins. After a win he backs up one
level, and if he wins that bet as well, the run is completed and starts again at one unit.

EXAMPLE: a progression of 4 losses and two wins (LLLLWW) would see the following bets placed (the
numbers in brackets show the level of your bankroll after the hand):

1, (-1), 1 (-2), 2 (-4), 3 (-7), 5 (-2), 3 (-1)

Twice as many bets have been lost as have been won, but the player is still1 unit ahead, simply
because he has won two bets in a row. In a similar series where the player does not win two in a
row, but only 2 of 3 (LLLLWLW) he restarts the series, but this time out profit picture will be
as follows:

1, (-1), 1 (-2), 2 (-4), 3 (-7), 5 (-2), 3 (-5), 5 (0)

In this instance, the 2 out of 3 wins at the end of the sequence have neutralized the progression,
and the sequence starts again at 1 unit. And suppose we decided to play a 12-step Fibonacci, with
our top bet being 144 units. Our total risk, which is the complete and utter loss of an entire series,
is 376 units, or

1 +1 +2 +3 +5 +8 +13 +21 +34 +55 +89 +144 = 376.

He can lose eleven bets in a row, (LLLLLLLLLLLWLW), lose a total of 232 units in a row, then win 144,
lose 89, win 144 for a total loss of 33 units, less than 10% of the player total bankroll. The problem
with the Fibonacci is not safety, therefore, but the fact that approximately half of your wins will
come at the very first level of 1 unit, making it an often tedious albeit profitable method. In order to
counter the boredom, some players will begin their progression at the 4th or 5th level, and alternately
move up or down as they win or lose, depending on their goals. To use the Fibonacci properly, a player
must first memorize the progression, and then practice at home flipping a coin, until the bets are made
automatically. It is a perfect system for all the even-chance games like Craps, Baccarat and Roulette,
and can be easily modified into a money-management system for Blackjack and sports betting. It is also
acknowledged as an excellent system for partners betting opposite each other. However, if you decide to
employ this system, you will find fewer more powerful ways to win with as little risk.


Labouchere System
This system is also called the 'Cancellation' system. There are many variations. In its simplest form, A
player writes down a series or a set of numbers; say, 1 2 3 4 5 6. The series can be short or long and not
necessarily sequential such as 1 1 1 3 3 5 7. The choice of a particular series depends on the type of
game you want to apply it to and the odds of the bet. Each number represents the amount in units or chips
to bet. You bet the first and last of these numbers. In this example 1 and 6, which totals 7 units. If you
win, you cross out the two numbers and bet the next two 'ends' (the outside numbers). In this instance 2
and 5. If you win again you bet on the next two remaining numbers 3 and 4, and if you win that too, you
would have made a 'coup' or completed one game. Then you start all over again. If you lose, then you add
that one number to the end of the series. Say you lost your first bet of 7 units (1+ 6). Then you add number
7 to the end of the series to look like this: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 and your next bet would be 8 units (1+ 7). If
you won the first bet but lost the second 2 and 5, then the series of numbers would look like this: 2 3 4 5 7.
If you work it out, you will see that when the series is completed or when you make a 'coup', there is always
a profit. The negative side of this system is that you could end up betting large sums of money even if your
initial bet is small.


Oscar's Grind
The system has the player bet one unit. If he wins, the sequence is over and a new one can be initiated. If
the wager is lost, then the next bet will be the same size as the one just lost. Whenever a bet is won, the
next stake is one unit larger, unless it causes the bettor to net more than one unit of profit for the sequence.
At that point, just enough is wagered to net one unit if the bet wins.
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